SVT is GONE!

Just got back from an extended stay in Australia and these are the two models I would like to see as the new L:

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.565

http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.533

The 4.0 (250 ci) turbo six will outrun the 390 HP N/A 5.4 stock vs stock and is also easy to mod to some unreal numbers. There is at least one making 1,000+ hp Fuel mileage is relatively good on these as well, 5th and 6th gears are both overdrives on both trannies.

http://qld.powercruise.net/images/photos_5/335.jpg

The Boss 290 4 dr Falcon is also very sweet.
http://www.fpv.com.au/index.asp?link_id=2.174

Check out 4 & 6 piston Brembos that come with these toys. Six speed manual or automatics. Cars have IRS and trucks a live axle.

ISince GM is importing the GTO from Australia, why can't Ford import these.
 
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from Sonic Boom...There is a market for “affordable” performance vehicles and Ford blew it with their Ford GT...

Great Point Sonic, it's like they took SVT to Vegas and said "let it ride" on this one. Would be interesting to see what $$ for R&D went into that compared to mainstream vehicles like Mustangs and F-150's. Ford I think got confused with the "F" and thought it said Ferrari. Then again they had the Adrenaline all touted up as a certainty and then nothing. The GT has gotten into alot of magazines but not many garages. They really needed to stick with 3 or 4 reasonably priced vehicles and give the people a good bang for the buck. Hate to say it but mabey they need to take a page from GM's book and raid Australia. Just figure it would turn out the same way as any other European venture like the Focus where they get a tuner version and we get the 4-door.:rolleyes:
 
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Any performance vehicle that is not manufactured on the main production line is never going to make a lot of money and i would think that they are only made in limited numbers to keep the price artificially high to make some return.Maybe Ford have been looking at the fuel issue and the slow down in truck and SUV sales and think that there isn't going to be a big enough market for performance v8 .
Over here our v8 models died out years ago,when fuel started going up and up,maybe Ford are thinking that prices in the US are not going to go back down and people will be looking at alternatives.
Years ago i had an Escort Cosworth,which was a 2liter 16v turbo with 4 wheel drive.It had 230 bhp and hit 60 in 5.4 it also went round bends.People now are tuning them to 700hp+.We have just got the Focus ST HERE.2.5 liter v6 turbo (from a Volvo) i don't know whether you will get it over there.
Both these cars were done by Ford in house.You dont need big cubes to make a lot of power,maybe this is the way Ford US are thinking know.
Hope not otherwise you'll have the same crap as us and what would i import next time:sfus: :sleeping:
 
Gitchi Manitou said:
Yup, start bringing the Aussie Fords here like GM did with the Holden. I'd love to have one of those F6 Typhoons.

Isn't it our safety requirements that prevent this?
 
Well lets see......There was the Ford
"High Performance Program" back in the sixties
Then shortly after that there was the "Muscle Program"
Then mixed in with all that, there was the "Cobra Program"
Then there was the "SVO program" mixed in with the "Motorsports Program".
Truth of the matter is that comparred to total sales, we performance enthusiates aren't even a grain of sand in this desert. I have seen all these programs come and go over the years and I guess I've become pretty calloused about it. I can remember the day a Five Star General got fired from the Army, So SVT closing down ain't no big deal. Hot Rodders will do what they always have done and build their own go fast cars. A good many of the people that are not hot rodders or racers will miss not being able to go down to the showroom and buying a factory hot rod. You know them, they get really pi$$ed when you blow the doors off their Vette with your old Mustang. Then they go back to the dealer and demand an explanation. Losers!!
Jim
 
cyntaxx said:
Umm, 400+ hp Chrysler 300's, SRT-8 Jeep's, the Trailblazer SS, and the new Z06? No thanks? That must just be you. :rolleyes:

Well the Z06 is a vette. The emblem on the side of it must have confused you. A jeep no matter how fast it is, its still a jeep. When I do my next rap album I'll get a chrysler 300to put in it. The trailblazer SS. The SS emblem on a F-----g
Suv? I must be the only one who thinks that is just wrong.
I guess Im just bias to old school american muscle cars. SVT did it right with the cobra and lightning. I am not a ford fan but I drive a lightning, that says somthing for SVT.
I dont care how fast your suv, neon, four door blinged out POS is, its not going to replace the american muscle car.
So if that is what the american auto industry is going to so be it. Its sad.
 
pickup-on-crack said:
Well the Z06 is a vette. The emblem on the side of it must have confused you. A jeep no matter how fast it is, its still a jeep. When I do my next rap album I'll get a chrysler 300to put in it. The trailblazer SS. The SS emblem on a F-----g
Suv? I must be the only one who thinks that is just wrong.
I guess Im just bias to old school american muscle cars. SVT did it right with the cobra and lightning. I am not a ford fan but I drive a lightning, that says somthing for SVT.
I dont care how fast your suv, neon, four door blinged out POS is, its not going to replace the american muscle car.
So if that is what the american auto industry is going to so be it. Its sad.
The lightning is not a car I know, but it is american muscle.
A neon is not. Nor is a trailblazer with SS on the side of it. thats my point.
 
pickup-on-crack said:
The lightning is not a car I know, but it is american muscle.
A neon is not. Nor is a trailblazer with SS on the side of it. thats my point.


Test drove a Trailablazer SS today....told the dealer he could keep it
 
Ford offers SVT to all its dealers
Amy Wilson
Automotive News / March 20, 2006 - 6:00 am



DETROIT - Beginning with this summer's introduction of the 2007 Shelby GT500,
the Ford brand will let all its dealers sell Special Vehicle Team vehicles.

Now, only a limited number of SVT-certified dealers can sell the
high-performance vehicles.

The change could help Ford sell more high-performance cars and trucks. But
some SVT dealers are crying foul.

Meanwhile, after a two-year product drought for the SVT brand, its future is
up in the air, sources say. It is not clear what, if any, products are slated
for SVT beyond the GT500, and Ford has declined to talk about its plans.

Ford has about 600 full-line SVT dealerships; 700 others were certified for
the now-discontinued SVT Focus. Beginning with the GT500, Ford will no longer
limit the number of available certifications. Certification requirements will
be different for each product. The Ford brand had 3,777 U.S. dealerships on
Jan. 1.

"This will further strengthen the Ford brand by providing us with a greater
opportunity to drive showroom traffic," wrote Darryl Hazel, president of
Ford's customer service division, in an e-mail to dealers.

Ford says it's not backing away from performance products. Some sources say
Ford is folding the SVT marketing team into the regular Ford brand team. Some
also expect SVT's engineering team may be diluted or tied more closely to
Ford's racing efforts.

That would be a remarkable about-face for SVT vehicles, which went on sale in
1992. Just a year ago, Ford's product chief, Phil Martens, said SVT was bigger
and better-funded than ever before. Martens, who has since left Ford, said SVT
would eventually have up to five products.

Product canceled

One of the new products was to be the Ford Sport Trac Adrenalin in 2007. But
Ford canceled the Adrenalin as part of its Way Forward turnaround plan. Ford
previously dropped plans for a next-generation F-150 Lightning.

SVT products typically sell for higher profits and at lower volumes - for
instance, an average 7,260 units per model year for past SVT Mustangs. Ford
has sold 144,994 SVT vehicles since 1992.

Ford spokeswoman Whitney Drake said the SVT organization is working on
"several future projects that we aren't ready to talk about just yet." She
wouldn't say whether the SVT name will be carried forward beyond the GT500.

The SVT name already is diminished on the GT500, where the logo appears on the
door sills. SVT is not included in the GT500 nameplate.

Ford is committed to performance, Drake said. Hau Thai-Tang, who had been a
protege of Martens, remains director of advanced product creation and SVT.

Even though SVT dealers will get extra allocation of the GT500, some are upset
to lose exclusive access to the high-margin products.

"It's a terrible mistake," said Beau Boeckmann, vice president of Galpin
Motors Inc. in North Hills, Calif., which has had a full-line SVT business.

"You had a group that was very focused. They really understood the value of
the product."

Making that product available to all dealers will dilute the power of the SVT
brand, Boeckmann said. He cited the SVT Focus, sold from 2001 to 2004, as an
example. When it was made available to an extra 700 dealers, "people sold it
off like it was just a common Focus."

But another full-line SVT dealer said Ford's move might boost the automaker's
overall performance business, increase volume and help the brand. Tom Addis,
chairman of the Ford national dealer council, said opening SVT up to all
dealers should allow Ford to market the products better.

Addis, dealer principal at Lake City Ford in Couer d'Alene, Idaho, said, "The
concern has always been: If you have a product that most dealers can't sell,
you're limited in how you can advertise it nationally."
 
pickup-on-crack said:
The lightning is not a car I know, but it is american muscle.
A neon is not. Nor is a trailblazer with SS on the side of it. thats my point.

i know u feel that they shouldnt keep throwing ss badges on huge suvs but an older american muscle is teh typhoon, which was an suv and very imprssive performance at that, but i guess tha tis about 1/2 the size of the trialblazer.
 
BigD said:


But another full-line SVT dealer said Ford's move might boost the automaker's
overall performance business, increase volume and help the brand. Tom Addis,
chairman of the Ford national dealer council, said opening SVT up to all
dealers should allow Ford to market the products better.

Addis, dealer principal at Lake City Ford in Couer d'Alene, Idaho, said, "The
concern has always been: If you have a product that most dealers can't sell,
you're limited in how you can advertise it nationally."
Sorry fellas, but I have to agree with this. If SVT products become the new SRT and SS packages with many models rather than a totally re-engineered vehicle every once in a great while, I'm all for it. I personally wanted Ford Racing to do this, but if it turns out to be SVT, well, so much the better. Ford might as well hang it up if they don't do this. SVT has the recognition now and needs to get out more product. Not everybody wants a performance product so there would still be exclusivity. I would like to be able to order what engine I would like as in the old days. And I don't want to give up the performance game to the competition. Wake up, Ford!


BTW, anybody see the Ford 500 GTR?

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/index.php?categoryid=12&p2_articleid=73
 
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pickup-on-crack said:
Well the Z06 is a vette. The emblem on the side of it must have confused you. A jeep no matter how fast it is, its still a jeep. When I do my next rap album I'll get a chrysler 300to put in it. The trailblazer SS. The SS emblem on a F-----g
Suv? I must be the only one who thinks that is just wrong.
I guess Im just bias to old school american muscle cars. SVT did it right with the cobra and lightning. I am not a ford fan but I drive a lightning, that says somthing for SVT.
I dont care how fast your suv, neon, four door blinged out POS is, its not going to replace the american muscle car.
So if that is what the american auto industry is going to so be it. Its sad.
You're not as old school as me, I still call'em panel trucks!
:D :D
 
Gitchi Manitou said:
Sorry fellas, but I have to agree with this. If SVT products become the new SRT and SS packages with many models rather than a totally re-engineered vehicle every once in a great while, I'm all for it. I personally wanted Ford Racing to do this, but if it turns out to be SVT, well, so much the better. Ford might as well hang it up if they don't do this. SVT has the recognition now and needs to get out more product. Not everybody wants a performance product so there would still be exclusivity. I would like to be able to order what engine I would like as in the old days. And I don't want to give up the performance game to the competition. Wake up, Ford!


BTW, anybody see the Ford 500 GTR?

http://www.stangsunleashed.com/index.php?categoryid=12&p2_articleid=73
Pretty cool Gitcha ! I heard the sales are bad on them and they were under powered but, I guess this will fix that !
 
magnumxl4 said:
i know u feel that they shouldnt keep throwing ss badges on huge suvs but an older american muscle is the typhoon, which was an suv and very imprssive performance at that, but i guess that is about 1/2 the size of the trialblazer.

The typhoon, cyclone and the GN were impressive.
Good point.
I know that its all about $, but the cars they are putting out with the names of say GTO, just makes ya sick. The person who thought taking a grand prix. Then put a vette motor in it, and call it a GTO, needs to be kicked in the head. Sell it as a grand prix and give it a new name. Dont sell it as a GTO. Its almost as sad as when they stuck "nova" on the side of a 4cylndr eco car back in the 80's
 
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