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    3rd engine in 50 miles!!!
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    High Mileage Gen 2?

    I'm a Gen 1 guy, but have owned both a 99 black and an 03 red Gen 2 in the past. I'm considering picking up a Gen 2, driving it for a year, and then making it a toy. I figure now's the time since prices of these trucks only seem to be going up. What issues are you seeing, or should I expect, with a truck over 100K? I can see spending up into the low 20's which seems to get you a 70-100k mile truck. I've inquired on:

    2004 Black 201k miles, stock but newer S/C $14k
    2000 Black 111k has mods/gauges... $24k
    2000 Red 74k appears stock $25k

    I'd love either of the blue trucks, but the cheapest I see out there is in the $30's.

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    Obviously not a Lightning (it does have Gen 2 front seats), but my beater truck is a '01 CC with the 5.4 and 335k miles on it. Just routine maintenance items. And the stupid composite manifold leak, which a Lightning wouldn't have. AC is dead (probably just an o-ring) and the driver's window recently quit rolling down. Overall it's remarkable how well that thing has put up with 20 years of use.
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    3rd engine in 50 miles!!!
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    Thats pretty impressive Jeff!
    Chuck P (NLOC#138) 1993#3951- 393 Stroker, lowered, custom paint, Mass Air conversion, etc. - The disaster train rolls on... but looks like there might be light at the end of the tunnel
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    OK, you are officially worse than me Why would you be thinking about this and not on how you're going to get the Gen1 going?
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    3rd engine in 50 miles!!!
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    Ah you jump to conclusions. I'm not looking for project, but a driver. My BMW lease is up in September, so Im thinking if I buy something cool (gen2 or Foxbody) and daily it for a year-ish I can then keep it as a toy without angering my wife too much. . I'm just having some reservations about giving up all the modern comforts and the possible concerns of a higher mileage car, but adding another cool vehicle to the stable may be worth it.

    As for the Gen 1, it is getting dropped off in 2 weeks from today to get EFI installed and tuned. Where it goes from there..... On my to-do list, Im trying to separate jobs I can/want to do and those best left to a pro.
    Chuck P (NLOC#138) 1993#3951- 393 Stroker, lowered, custom paint, Mass Air conversion, etc. - The disaster train rolls on... but looks like there might be light at the end of the tunnel
    -Engine being rebuilt as of June 2020! Considering my options
    SOLD- 1999 and 2002 Gen 2 Lightning's

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    I had 257,000 miles on my '99 before a head gasket blew. The cost to fix it was more than the truck was worth, so, I replaced it with a good, used one.

    I have 191,000 miles on my '03 and it's still going strong.

    If you get one with 4 thread heads (built prior to mid-2003), be sure the spark plugs are kept tight. For some reason #4 (passenger side rear) backs/blows out and is v. difficult to fix (getting an indexed Heli-Coil in there is no fun).

    It's relatively minor, but, both my trucks have had the differential cover plate rust out and leak.

    Both trucks have had blow-by clog the intercooler which limits boost.

    The only problem with either transmission was when the neutral safety switch seized on the '03. Forcing it into PARK for a few months caused a rebuild of the steering column ($1,300...).

    Both trucks have had the fuel system ballast resistor fail (mounted on the intercooler pump bracket). The '99 was VERY difficult to diagnose.

    Other than that, no out-of-the-ordinary problems. I'm looking for another when this one dies.
    1999 Black #1212 (gone) now 2003 Black #1714

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    Intercoolers plugged up with oil are common to all Lightnings. And when they're plugged up, it makes the boost gauge read high, since the takeoff for the gauge is above the intercooler, on the driver's side just below the blower. But the boost isn't getting through. The fix for that is to put an oil separator in between the PCV valve and the plenum. No more plugged intercoolers. There's a guy on LightningRodder that sells duplicates of the old Mad Enterprises 5.4 extended coil pack screws. These make plug changes so much easier, as you don't have to fook around with those stupid little 7 mm screws.

    I tried to post pics, but there seems to be something wrong with that feature. Can't do it. Keep getting a pop-up block saying something is amiss.

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