D/R Car ready

five0drw

five0drw

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Nope it's not a "L" but as some of you know this has been a ten year project i am ready...:D

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wow I been away a little wile. Very nice.

what is the extra nitrous solenoid in the back i see the small perge and the two mains with the fuel but what is the large one in the back a safety in case one happens to stick or another dry shot a second perge? :headscratch:
 
javman said:
wow I been away a little wile. Very nice.

what is the extra nitrous solenoid in the back i see the small perge and the two mains with the fuel but what is the large one in the back a safety in case one happens to stick or another dry shot a second perge? :headscratch:
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that is the NOS solenoid for the plate. the first stage. the 2nd stage is the fogger:ashamed:
 
five0drw said:
that is the NOS solenoid for the plate. the first stage. the 2nd stage is the fogger:ashamed:
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so what is your capacity and why the 2 stages insted of a big single with a controler? want to know since im building a milder spray motor for my javelin I think max shot of 300 or less hold get me where i want to go with my good but less than steller ported stock heads set up for a 680-700 lift cam with 3.73 gears. may need more tire than i can fit curently though 26 10.5 15s
 
javman said:
so what is your capacity and why the 2 stages insted of a big single with a controler? want to know since im building a milder spray motor for my javelin I think max shot of 300 or less hold get me where i want to go with my good but less than steller ported stock heads set up for a 680-700 lift cam with 3.73 gears. may need more tire than i can fit curently though 26 10.5 15s
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i am doing that cause of the set up i am on drag radials leave soft 175 200 shot then after car gets moving 60ft hit it with 350 400 adj on the fogger...
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five0drw said:
i am doing that cause of the set up i am on drag radials leave soft 175 200 shot then after car gets moving 60ft hit it with 350 400 adj on the fogger...
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that is a lot of spray you must have a very serious set of heads and monster cam to injest near a 600 shot. the cam i have would like it but my heads are too small and my short block would reject it out the oil pan with the CAT rods and stock mains though the mains may get the centers replaced with 3 4bolt splayed caps but I havent decided yet since I've seen the stockes hold up to 12.5 to 1 and a 175 shot for 3 years and the bearings looked perfict and im only planing on 8.5 to 1

here are the cam specs
CamMotion grind R2784-2871-10
Intake Exahust
Rocker Raito 1.5 1.5
Lash 23 23
Duration @ 0.05 0.05

Lobe Seperation 109.8 109.8 cam deg.

Valve Overlap 66.9 66.9 crank deg.

Valve Open 34.4 btdc
78.8 bbdc

Centerline 105.8 atdc
113.8 btdc

Valve Close 66.4 abdc
32.5 atdc

Duration 280.8 291.3 deg

Lobe Aerea 40.79 41.4

Lobe Lift 0.43875 0.43126
Valve Lift 0.65813 0.64689 at 1.5 Rocker Ratio
0.702 0.69 at 1.6 Rocker Raito
grose lift on cam card 0.768 0.755 at 1.75 Rocker Ratio ?



here are my tiny heads

Iron heads for nitrous motor plugs in with header stubbs

Lift Intake Exhaust
100 64 52
150 95 82
200 122 102
250 150 122
300 173 141
350 195 156
400 217 167
450 238 176
500 251 180
550 253 185
600 259 189
650 264 194
700 267 197
750 268 201
 
wow 1.5 rockers......... yep tiny
109 center lobe geeze that guy's gonna lope big time.
8.5 comp sounds like a blower set up. have you run it yet?



my set up different.. 1.7 rockers
112 center lobe hyd roller sounds stock lol runs ok on motor but really pick's up on the bottle. 9.5 comp (needs like 14.5) good for pump gas, race time it gets 116. Heads canfields flow like 310 / 225 at 500 2.08 /160 valves.
 
five0drw said:
wow 1.5 rockers......... yep tiny
109 center lobe geeze that guy's gonna lope big time.
8.5 comp sounds like a blower set up. have you run it yet?



my set up different.. 1.7 rockers
112 center lobe hyd roller sounds stock lol runs ok on motor but really pick's up on the bottle. 9.5 comp (needs like 14.5) good for pump gas, race time it gets 116. Heads canfields flow like 310 / 225 at 500 2.08 /160 valves.
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nice set of heads

I'm using 1.6 rocker stock amc ratio and the comp is actuly unknown as of this point but the pistons I'm using should be low compression 10.5-1 or less with the deep dishes but I havent cc'ed anything yet. it will be a dog off spray but sound cool as hell:)

I have heard the cam in another engine it was in my buddy's amx in a 427 stroker amc 14.75-1 comp 1.75 rockers ported FBS heads that flowed way too much for the CI 430int 360 something ex, with a single carb it made 900 horse na and he was planing on putting as much nitrous as it took to get his 3200# car in to the 8's but after a few passes the sleeves started leaking and he decided to sell the heads and go with a set of indy street head with no push rod holes cast in to them and run offset rockers since that way he could get the low end flow he needed but with the pushrods moved the street heads have better flow potental than the race heads indy makes with a little over 800 gross lift on that combo he is making a little over 800hp na but it is more usable and the car runs near the same time na the old combo did since he wouldn't run it past 8500 rpm. my car will not sound anywhere close since the compression is lacking, there about half the head flow and the lift will be down but it was a nice custom billet roller for 200 and thought a little on the large side should nt hurt the flow thought the extra .020 lift dosen't help either .

here is what heads like he had look like and his where massively ported Race Ads | For Sale: AMC-JEEP Fred Brewer Al. Racing heads unfortunately the tooling for these got destroyed in an accident a few years back so used the the only way they come and I have no where near that kind of cash but look at that port :scared1: that is a monster set of heads
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now that with an indy alm block and custom moldex crank in the 550 ci range would be a monster

This engine was going to go in to a full tube chassis AMX project but i had a chance to trade that and some parts for a rust free 69 AMX caged and tied together for road racing so now that engine is going in to my Javelin street car. this is a budget race engine (if there is such a thing) bought most of the parts for it new at a fraction of the retail price some on ebay and some when Aerro went under.

It is to the point I need to send it out and get the machine work finished it still needs the lifters bushed because the cam lift will push the lifters up into the oil galley and bleed off all the oil pressure and i need to get it neutral balanced also for since I bought a Hays alm flywheel for it that is no longer made and a neutral Fisher Concepts balancer both bought pretty right.

since it is going in front of a 4 speed I'm trying to decide if i should leave the bronze insert and run a centered iron slipper clutch or use the steel insert i bought with a brass or duel disk and if any one has a nice 250+ plate or fogger kit I wold be interested preferably zex speedtech or wilson but NX or NOS would be fine if there the good plates or foggers

never mind about the nitrous right after i got off of here and went to craigslist i found a speedtech diffuser 100-500 kit with 1 gal cell, holly black pump. bg bypass reg., and nos purge the only thing missing is a down tube and the bottle brackets but for $550 i couldn't pass it up.
 
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