A little vent about my 18 f150

greenstang

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I guess the vent is more about my dealer. The truck started making a growling noise that I thought may be tires so I rotated a little ahead of my schedule. The sound didn't change and I ended up putting it up on stands and running it in gear. 2wd was quiet, 4wd the noise was there so I'm thinking bearing or possibly CV joint. I take it to the dealer I bought it from and after checking it out he says tire noise. I told him I had the tires off the ground and it made the noise. He said all they heard was tire noise. GRRRR! I took it to another dealer this week and they found a bad left front wheel bearing covered under warranty ( 27,000 miles on it ) now Grace is back. I'm more mad about the dealer response than I am with the wheel bearing going out at 27,000 mi.
 
i've experienced a similar dealer response before. don't do business with that dealership any more.

Yeah, just like anything some dealers are great others are terrible. I stay away from any dealer under the AutoNation name, they have been some of the most shady and dishonest people I have dealt with. Not to mentioned an absolute lack of skills in the work they have done.
 
I haven't really had any problems with my Ford dealer, but we've had issues with two Jeep dealers.

The first was on our 2012 Wrangler. This was the first year they put the 3.6 in the Wrangler and the factory that built the Wrangler engines had an issue with the tooling used to machine the heads for the valve seats. By the time we had the issue, everybody in the Wrangler world knew about it. The only real symptom of the problem was a code P0304 and we got it at about 18k miles. Took it to the dealer, they had to keep it over night to do nothing but scan and clear the code. When my wife picked it up she didn't make it a block before the light was on again, so she took it right back. They made her get an appointment to come in and get the computer reflashed. I called them and asked why they didn't just put a head on it like we all knew they needed to. They denied that there was any such problem, so when we took it back for the reflash I printed off the service bulletins and took them to them. They still denied it. Kept it two days to reflash the computer. The light was on again a block later. Took it back again and they wanted to replace the PCM. I think they had it about a week that time. Still didn't fix it. Took it in a 4th time and the service writer tells me he thinks it may need a cylinder head like it was his great detective work that discovered the problem. By this time the heads were on national backorder for 4-6 weeks and they wanted us to drop off the Jeep and leave it with them the whole time. Nope. Not gonna happen. He finally agreed to call me when the head got there, but I had to call them after nearly two months and they told me the head had been sitting there waiting on us. Finally got it taken care of and never had any other significant problems with the Jeep or the service department.

In 2016 we traded the 2012 in on a new 75th Anniversary Wrangler at the same dealer. The first purchase was a great experience. The second was a nightmare, so we went to a different dealer when we needed service. That happened at about 56,000 miles when I serviced the rear axle and chunks came out. I saved the bigger ones, which were obviously pieces of spider gears, and put them in a ziplock bag to show the service writer. My wife took it in to another dealer, told them what I found, and showed them the pieces. They kept it for three days, drove it 0.2 miles, and told us they didn't hear anything but tire noise. There was no tire noise and the axle wasn't making any noise either. Before we picked it up I called them and asked them about the chunks I found. They said it was casting flash and nothing to worry about. I asked them if they commonly saw casting flash the size of marbles that was machined, ground, and hardened. All he would say was that there was nothing wrong and they weren't going to do anything with it. I was just supposed to keep an eye on it if it got worse. I suspect he was just hoping it would make it another 4,000 miles until the powertrain warranty expired. I took it home, popped the cover off, took pictures of the spider gears broken all to hell, put it back together and took it back to them. This time they agreed to fix it and it only took 3 weeks. Idiots. If I had known it was going to be 3 weeks and such a PITA I would have just bought a TruTrac and been done with it. Then when we got it back, the XM radio didn't work. Come to find out they had swapped our radio while they had it and stuck us with all of the fees to Sirius to get it reconnected. I suspect our radio was riding around in one of their employee's cars with what they thought would be a year of free XM radio.
 
I actually swore off Fords for over a decade because of that kind of dealership treatment. The next Ford I bought, I got treated the same way.

I can say that I never had that kind of blow-off at high-line import dealerships.

Also, the Dodge dealership didn't even bat an eye when I brought my stickshift Scat Pack in with some terrible rear differential noises. That was so obviously caused by me abusing the hell out of the car.
 
Interesting, I would have recommended checking the IWE’s. They are notorious for going out on the 13th gen F150’s. I never really had the issue on my 18 Raptor, but changed out the check valve anyways.

I had so many issues with the Raptor that dealerships couldn’t figure out that I got out of it. Had a 2020 Explorer ST for 9 months. Wasn’t much better as far as quality. Decided I’m not buying a new Ford for a long time. My wife’s 2017 Explorer has a grinding sound in the right front that has never been fixed. Been in four times for that issue alone. In fact I swore it was warped brake rotors so I had them replaced....$700 later and it still grinds. Frustrating.
 
The IWE was on the radar for me after a little research. When I put it on stands with all four off the ground and it only did it when the front wheels were turning and 4wd seemed to be engaging and disengaging as it should then wheel bearing was my guess. The dealer that fixed it has been good to me over the years. I've bought a few cars from them since 1994. I took my 95L in for AC work after the warranty had run out. It was 4 years old but the dealer had charged and checked my AC system 2 years prior because it wouldn't cool when I tried it the first time in the summer. The shop manager told me the 4th year that if they found the problem he would get it taken care of because of the low mileage. She only had 7-8000 miles on her then. If they would have had the truck I wanted when I bought the 18, I would've tried to deal with them first. I'm not happy with the other dealer.
 
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