6.0 Procharged Denali Truck Begging to Race

Pedaas

Pedaas

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Local guy has a new Denali AWD Crew Cab Pickup 6.0 Liter. He spent 11k on; a procharger, had a local shop install a cam and valve springs, headers with stock exhaust, 4.10 gears and had it tuned and shift points changed. He's been begging me for a couple of months to race. I have an 03 L that I haven't turned a wrench on yet. I'm just curious on you guys thoughts on my chances. He swears he'll take me with no problems.


Mickey
 
Any ideas or further info on his numbers or anything?
And by your statement I assume your truck is stock.
 
That's word for word what I remember him telling me. Yep I'm completely stock. I have no idea where to go for a tune where I live.
 
your going to hear get a 6lber and a tune (supporting mods). I have a canned from LFP, it will work till you get a dyno tune.
 
I think it's a driver's race.

(Here you go 9RL9) You should get a 4 or 6 lb pulley with a chip and some tires and you'll take him.
 
Being Pro Ford and a L owner makes me bias, but 6.0 with charger, so what? The 40% loss through the all wheel drivetrain wipes all that off to a less than level playing field. Take him. If not, learn from it.

BTW: a straight line race is never a drivers game with an auto, pass on all the pulleys and crap, change the shift points in the tranny, it will win races.
 
He's gonna have you on the lauch because of the AWD and depending if you hook or not. Power wise I think the denali will take you stock but not with a pulley and tune.
 
Would someone mind linking me some pulleys?

Also, how do I find out the closest place to Central Arkansas for a tune, and then what exactly do I ask for?

Thanks,

Mickey
 
Pedaas said:
Local guy has a new Denali AWD Crew Cab Pickup 6.0 Liter. He spent 11k on; a procharger, had a local shop install a cam and valve springs, headers with stock exhaust, 4.10 gears and had it tuned and shift points changed. He's been begging me for a couple of months to race. I have an 03 L that I haven't turned a wrench on yet. I'm just curious on you guys thoughts on my chances. He swears he'll take me with no problems.


Mickey
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Denali: 5500lbs/325hp
Lightning: 4700lbs/380hp

To match the power to weight, the Denali would need at least 450 hp on paper. I say with drag radials and a good launch, you'd take him.
 
To match the power to weight, the Denali would need at least 450 hp on paper. I say with drag radials and a good launch, you'd take him.
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Agreed.

add a good pull in the following gears, and it's a done deal.
 
stloa said:
. . . BTW: a straight line race is never a drivers game with an auto, pass on all the pulleys and crap, change the shift points in the tranny, it will win races.
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Wow. All of that Lightning research and experimentation over the last decade has been for nothing. All we had to do all along was change the shift points.

Boy do we feel stupid. I just wish you were here to set us straight in 1999.
 
Wow. All of that Lightning research and experimentation over the last decade has been for nothing. All we had to do all along was change the shift points.

Boy do we feel stupid. I just wish you were here to set us straight in 1999.
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Awww, did you feelings get hurt over something said indirectly to you over the internet?

Sorry I do not subject to the school of thinking that the difference between low 13's and high 12's is several grand in the motor. Forgive me if I though the DRIVER might have something to do with it. [/end sarcasm]
 
ibismojo said:
Denali: 5500lbs/325hp
Lightning: 4700lbs/380hp

To match the power to weight, the Denali would need at least 450 hp on paper. I say with drag radials and a good launch, you'd take him.
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Did you not see the Procharger part of this post. His power will be more than BHP number vs a known stock L. Oh yeah just change the shift points and blow his doors off!!!!!!!!!lol
 
Oh yeah just change the shift points and blow his doors off!!!!!!!!!lol
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Odd, I can't see where I posted that anywhere.



What I can see is this guy has not even raced with what he has, and from what I see none of you have raced the other truck either and rather than just race, instead lets burn this guys money, on what we think might win, yet never have ran the truck as is, do you think so little of your stock truck? Whats next we should race only Escorts to know for sure we can win?

Race the dam truck, if he beats you, he does, it's by how much that matters, and go from there to correct the difference. I don'r track race, I street race, maybe there is a major difference in the two, but I don't feel it, I will be at Gateway this Friday, feel free to come and educate me on how you need to buy a great truck and dump tons of money in it to win races.
 
You think a procharger's going create an additional 125hp (not saying it won't, I'm not too familiar with centrifugal setups on the LSx's)? If it does, won't most of the power be at the top end? I still think if he doesn't botched the launch, he'll be close.

You could always try for a game of attrition :D
 
stloa said:
Awww, did you feelings get hurt over something said indirectly to you over the internet?

Sorry I do not subject to the school of thinking that the difference between low 13's and high 12's is several grand in the motor. Forgive me if I though the DRIVER might have something to do with it. [/end sarcasm]
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Since when does a filter, pulley, tune, and tires cost "several grand?"
 
Since when does a filter, pulley, tune, and tires cost "several grand?"
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I have almost a grand in tires easy, $8XX and change.

Filter needs a cold air box right? couple H's there.

What kind of tune we talkin? Something off the internet? Or a test and tune with several pulls on a dyno.

You can blow a wad and not even try. Plus there is the burn of claimed increase of HP and "real world" HP.

You really can't see a couple grand in your motor already? Hell I only had this L a week and blew $2000, tires, brakes, full fuilds flush to synthetic, full tune, and three trips to the dyno, for marked improvments, not to mention my Mechanic.
You all may have time to burn turning your wrenches, I have to work for my money, so someone else has to.


Again the point I was trying to get across, is we have no clue what the truck will do as is, and last I checked, money ain't free. So instaed of throwing money at it, just race it, and see. There is no shame in a loss, and it makes it dam sweeter when you correct/overcome the issue for the win.
 
stloa said:
Awww, did you feelings get hurt over something said indirectly to you over the internet? . . . .
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Nope. Just annoyance over some newbie jumping in and acting like the Messiah.

The claim that shift points have somehow been overlooked in the quest for speed is ignorant. There are tuners here who have literally been working to scratch out thousands of a second since the Lightning was introduced in 1999. Shift points have been considered, like 10,000 times over.

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