A to W or A to A intercoolers, why not both - Page 3

brainbypass mod · 08-19-2009, 11:00 AM

with an air-air you will never be able to get the iat2 temps as cold as an air-water system with ice in it. the most an air-air unit can cool the charge temps down to is ambient. you can get below ambient with a properly designed air-water . you can design the system with enough flow and a big enough heat exchanger with fans to shed the heat on the street too. what about a full size radiator mounted in the bed of the truck with a some big electric fans on it? now there's an idea!

going from an undersized air-water unit to a huge air-air i could see people not wanting to go back, but i would question how good they're air-water system was, especially if they are drag racers...

Casey02L · 08-19-2009, 12:07 PM

You can get below ambient with a A/A with a little methanol. The thing I wouldnt want in a big A/W is all the extra weight of water; heat exchangers; pumps; fans; having to deal with ice....

One of these days all the blower people are going to figure out the factory A/W core and water system is holding them back and build a better A/W.....

brainbypass mod · 08-19-2009, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey02L

One of these days all the blower people are going to figure out the factory A/W core and water system is holding them back and build a better A/W.....

i already have plans to upgrade mine, after i take care of the fuel system and get a new stall

FKASRT · 08-19-2009, 10:42 PM

Once again I hate sounding like a broken record but I will stick with the people that had both and prefer the performance of A TO A over A TO W. People can say what they want and find all the data they think is right or know is right but it doesn't mean $hit until you do it and try it yourself and compare the two and find out what you like best. I will find out how much I like or dis like the A TO A in a couple weeks.

brainbypass mod · 08-20-2009, 12:43 AM

Well, as they say, the proof is in the puddin'!

I am interested to see your results.

1fst54 · 08-20-2009, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FKASRT

Once again I hate sounding like a broken record but I will stick with the people that had both and prefer the performance of A TO A over A TO W. People can say what they want and find all the data they think is right or know is right but it doesn't mean $hit until you do it and try it yourself and compare the two and find out what you like best. I will find out how much I like or dis like the A TO A in a couple weeks.

What's the size of the A-A you have? Where did you get it?

FKASRT · 08-21-2009, 09:57 AM

front mount intercooler (12"H x 24 1/2"W x 4"D core) 3" in/out

thats what is it listed as but it about 4'' thick.

1fst54 · 08-21-2009, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by FKASRT

front mount intercooler (12"H x 24 1/2"W x 4"D core) 3" in/out

thats what is it listed as but it about 4'' thick.

Where from? How much? I'm switching out my A2A that came with my ProTurbo Kit

FKASRT · 08-22-2009, 10:12 AM

I got it in a trade I don't know where he got it from.

Sinister04L · 08-22-2009, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FKASRT

Once again I hate sounding like a broken record but I will stick with the people that had both and prefer the performance of A TO A over A TO W. People can say what they want and find all the data they think is right or know is right but it doesn't mean $hit until you do it and try it yourself and compare the two and find out what you like best. I will find out how much I like or dis like the A TO A in a couple weeks.

All you can do is research and look at all the data and make a choice accordingly. In the end it's your truck and you can run whatever you want. I'll say this though, people going from a stock A-W intercooler set up to a big A-A set up probably will like the A-A better. If you compare a big (and properly built) A-W set up you will probably see different opinions though.

turbodgumby · 08-23-2009, 02:32 AM

I know mine isn't a mod motor'd turbo but I got mine from CXRacing. 31x12x4 3" inlet and Outlet.

08-19-2009, 11:00 AM	#31 (permalink)
brainbypass mod always bet on black Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 1,680 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	with an air-air you will never be able to get the iat2 temps as cold as an air-water system with ice in it. the most an air-air unit can cool the charge temps down to is ambient. you can get below ambient with a properly designed air-water . you can design the system with enough flow and a big enough heat exchanger with fans to shed the heat on the street too. what about a full size radiator mounted in the bed of the truck with a some big electric fans on it? now there's an idea! going from an undersized air-water unit to a huge air-air i could see people not wanting to go back, but i would question how good they're air-water system was, especially if they are drag racers... __________________ 03 black turbo lightning - holset hx60 powered "And another thing.....when I gun the motor, I want the whole world to think it's coming to an end" -Homer Simpson

08-19-2009, 12:07 PM	#32 (permalink)
Casey02L 1.31 60ft on DR's Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pensacola, Florida Posts: 2,917 View this user's gallery iTrader: 11 / 100%	You can get below ambient with a A/A with a little methanol. The thing I wouldnt want in a big A/W is all the extra weight of water; heat exchangers; pumps; fans; having to deal with ice.... One of these days all the blower people are going to figure out the factory A/W core and water system is holding them back and build a better A/W..... __________________ XXX MotorSports 1.31 5.87@117.54 BS3, 3.4 Whipple, NX, TH400, 9"

08-19-2009, 10:42 PM	#34 (permalink)
FKASRT Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: saucier,ms Posts: 149 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Once again I hate sounding like a broken record but I will stick with the people that had both and prefer the performance of A TO A over A TO W. People can say what they want and find all the data they think is right or know is right but it doesn't mean $hit until you do it and try it yourself and compare the two and find out what you like best. I will find out how much I like or dis like the A TO A in a couple weeks. Last edited by FKASRT; 08-20-2009 at 11:08 AM..

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08-20-2009, 12:43 AM	#35 (permalink)
brainbypass mod always bet on black Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: houston, tx Posts: 1,680 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Well, as they say, the proof is in the puddin'! I am interested to see your results.

08-21-2009, 09:57 AM	#37 (permalink)
FKASRT Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: saucier,ms Posts: 149 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	front mount intercooler (12"H x 24 1/2"W x 4"D core) 3" in/out thats what is it listed as but it about 4'' thick.

08-22-2009, 10:12 AM	#39 (permalink)
FKASRT Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: saucier,ms Posts: 149 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I got it in a trade I don't know where he got it from.

08-23-2009, 02:32 AM	#41 (permalink)
turbodgumby GOT BOOST?? Paid Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Port Acres, TX Posts: 1,192 NLOC member #: 2673 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I know mine isn't a mod motor'd turbo but I got mine from CXRacing. 31x12x4 3" inlet and Outlet.