Turbo install

j4cefan · 10-27-2008, 08:36 PM

I'm putting a turbo system together for my 5.4 Long Head Extended Block. ie V10.....LMAO.. What do you turbo guys do with the vacuum lines/hoses in the duct work in front of the Throttle Body.. I pretty much have my whole system ready to start bolting on I just need to make an inlet and add a spot for me PMAS blowthru MAF.. Also I would like to get 480-500 RWHP out of this thing.. I have a billet fuel hat with duel 255 pumps, what injectors should I run and would I need a BAP.
Thanks for the info..

DallasGT01 · 10-27-2008, 08:40 PM

wait a sec???

the v10 isnt a 5.4.... its a 4.6 etc with 2 extra cyl...

atleast when MMFF did the v10 build it was a 4.6 with 2 extra cyl...

and why a v10???

you are going to have to spend some $$ on those heads in order for you to even benefit from the extra cubes.. a 5.4 sohc would have made about the same power give or take alittle...

j4cefan · 10-27-2008, 08:52 PM

Towing. This turbo kit is for a F250. That motor you were talking about was an all together one off engine. I saw it in person... It was based on the 4.6 with 2 more cylinders. The 6.8 is a 5.4 with 2 more cylinders. actually I used a lightning lower intake one time and CNC'd some runners for the rear 2 cylinders and bolted an L Eaton to the V10 with minimal work. This customer just wants a turbo and if it works i'm going to install one on my Excursion.

DallasGT01 · 10-27-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by j4cefan

Towing. This turbo kit is for a F250. That motor you were talking about was an all together one off engine. I saw it in person... It was based on the 4.6 with 2 more cylinders. The 6.8 is a 5.4 with 2 more cylinders. actually I used a lightning lower intake one time and CNC'd some runners for the rear 2 cylinders and bolted an L Eaton to the V10 with minimal work. This customer just wants a turbo and if it works i'm going to install one on my Excursion.

i was looking at the v10 awhile back and do a set of 4v heads and it would have been a beast... twin 76s would have had a good time playing with that..

as for the vac lines and everything...

are you talking about the stock lines???? or when you add your bov and waste gate i am kinda lost on your?

j4cefan · 10-27-2008, 09:14 PM

The factory stuff that is on my inlet duct now. It's setup somewhat like the L engine. there is a 1" or so hose and a smaller hose connected to the inlet. where do you run the stuff to on the L's when you are pressurising before the TB?
Thanks

Agent 00 L · 10-28-2008, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by j4cefan

The factory stuff that is on my inlet duct now. It's setup somewhat like the L engine. there is a 1" or so hose and a smaller hose connected to the inlet. where do you run the stuff to on the L's when you are pressurising before the TB?
Thanks

You need to extende those hoses to the inlet side of the trubo. One goes to the valve cover and the other is for the IAC. Let me dig up a pick of the inlet side of my kit.

Look inboard of the MAF and the coupler and you will see two black hoses. One goes to the IAC and the other to the valve cover. Basically if if has to have vaccum needs to be moved to an area that only sees vaccum.

j4cefan · 10-28-2008, 04:07 PM

Do you have a list of the mods. injectors, pumps, how is that SCT Big Air working for you? are you running a meth kit since you have no intercooler? This is what my customer wants to do. It will be going on a V10 F250 with more room under the hood. what size turbo? Any info is greatly appreciated.

DallasGT01 · 10-29-2008, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by j4cefan

Do you have a list of the mods. injectors, pumps, how is that SCT Big Air working for you? are you running a meth kit since you have no intercooler? This is what my customer wants to do. It will be going on a V10 F250 with more room under the hood. what size turbo? Any info is greatly appreciated.

with the stock pistons and what not i would do a MP T70 its cheap and wont kill his block to quick...

that picture is of a turbo kit that is using the stock L lower and intercooler...

so he does have a intercooler.. if i were you i would look into a after cooler or do a front mount... front mount is easier i would think... plus you dont have to buy all the **** to make the aftercooler work...

do atleast 60s so you have room.. and the SCT 3000 is pretty nice but so is the sniper maf...

Agent 00 L · 10-29-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by j4cefan

Do you have a list of the mods. injectors, pumps, how is that SCT Big Air working for you? are you running a meth kit since you have no intercooler? This is what my customer wants to do. It will be going on a V10 F250 with more room under the hood. what size turbo? Any info is greatly appreciated.

The turbo is a Precision 76mm GTSH with a .96 A/R, if he is going to tow with the truck he might want a small A/R so it will spool sooner. I didn't see much boost before 2900 RPM.

I ran the stock intercooler with this setup so I can't help you much there. You might look into the Vortech air to water ones that you can mount in the engine bay. It could save you some work with running the cold side piping.

Fuel mods were just 60lb injectors and twin 255 pumps in the tank. Keep in mind Lightings had the twin pumps stock and could switch second pump off and on. You will more than likely need an adjustable fuel pressure regulator for your application unless the V-10 trucks have the same setup. You could also switch to a Lightning computer too, that way it could switch the fuel pumps and an intercooler pump for you.

My engine was otherwise stock except for a cobra water pump though.

With the pumps an injectors you should be fine unless the fuel lines on the 250s are smaller for some reason. I ran my setup near 20psi a few times and it worked for me.

At that level I was getting near the end of the BA 2400 MAF you see there. This meter should work well for you application unless he wants to turn it way up for some reason. You want the smaller MAF so it will have better resolution down low to keep the driveability better.

j4cefan · 10-29-2008, 11:57 AM

Thanks for the info. We have a BA2400 in the shop already. I will talk to the tuner about that, He mentioned using a PMAS blowthru. As for the a/r I talked to a guy that sells turbonetics he said to use a .68 but I felt that was to low and it would blow the tires off with the torque this engine makes. As for fuel I might make some rails and get a good aftermarket pump and regulator, instead of using this billet hat I made. I see what you are saying about 2 255L pumps running all the time, that would be a volume of fuel. not sure if the L ecm would run 10 cylinders. What do you think it would take to get this thing making at least 450RWHP?

j4cefan · 10-29-2008, 02:03 PM

I just checked my Excursion when I got in. If the customers fuel lines are like it we will need to upgrade the fuel lines. My pressure and return lines are both 5/16". What are you running for exhaust? Flipped manifolds or turbo headers.
Thanks again

Agent 00 L · 10-30-2008, 09:44 AM

I am running the Pro Trubo headers that came with the kit.

Power? With the added displacement I don't think you will need much boost to make 450, mabye something like 12 psi? I didn't do any math on that is just a guess based on my dyno numbers.

j4cefan · 10-30-2008, 11:38 AM

I talked to a guy today that gave me a little info on the fuel system. He has a Vortech on an F350
V10, He modified his fuel hat and has a 155 and a 255 pump in the tank. He's running the 255 all the time all the time and activating the other with a boost activated switch at 6-7PSI... I would stil need larger lines due to the 5/16" feed line. He has his truck making 375/460 at the rear wheels with 7 pounds of boost he says.. He used 10 of the cobra blue injectors.. I think they are 39's.. Do the guys that flip the manifolds swap them side to side also or just turn them over. do you lengthen the O2 wires for the sensors in the front?
Thanks.

10-27-2008, 08:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
j4cefan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 41 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Turbo install I'm putting a turbo system together for my 5.4 Long Head Extended Block. ie V10.....LMAO.. What do you turbo guys do with the vacuum lines/hoses in the duct work in front of the Throttle Body.. I pretty much have my whole system ready to start bolting on I just need to make an inlet and add a spot for me PMAS blowthru MAF.. Also I would like to get 480-500 RWHP out of this thing.. I have a billet fuel hat with duel 255 pumps, what injectors should I run and would I need a BAP. Thanks for the info..

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DallasGT01 ALL TALK NO WALK!!! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: FRISCO TEXAS!!!! Posts: 2,005 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	wait a sec??? the v10 isnt a 5.4.... its a 4.6 etc with 2 extra cyl... atleast when MMFF did the v10 build it was a 4.6 with 2 extra cyl... and why a v10??? you are going to have to spend some $$ on those heads in order for you to even benefit from the extra cubes.. a 5.4 sohc would have made about the same power give or take alittle...

10-27-2008, 08:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
j4cefan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 41 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Towing. This turbo kit is for a F250. That motor you were talking about was an all together one off engine. I saw it in person... It was based on the 4.6 with 2 more cylinders. The 6.8 is a 5.4 with 2 more cylinders. actually I used a lightning lower intake one time and CNC'd some runners for the rear 2 cylinders and bolted an L Eaton to the V10 with minimal work. This customer just wants a turbo and if it works i'm going to install one on my Excursion.

10-27-2008, 09:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
j4cefan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 41 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	The factory stuff that is on my inlet duct now. It's setup somewhat like the L engine. there is a 1" or so hose and a smaller hose connected to the inlet. where do you run the stuff to on the L's when you are pressurising before the TB? Thanks

10-28-2008, 04:07 PM	#7 (permalink)
j4cefan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 41 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Do you have a list of the mods. injectors, pumps, how is that SCT Big Air working for you? are you running a meth kit since you have no intercooler? This is what my customer wants to do. It will be going on a V10 F250 with more room under the hood. what size turbo? Any info is greatly appreciated.

10-29-2008, 11:57 AM	#10 (permalink)
j4cefan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 41 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Thanks for the info. We have a BA2400 in the shop already. I will talk to the tuner about that, He mentioned using a PMAS blowthru. As for the a/r I talked to a guy that sells turbonetics he said to use a .68 but I felt that was to low and it would blow the tires off with the torque this engine makes. As for fuel I might make some rails and get a good aftermarket pump and regulator, instead of using this billet hat I made. I see what you are saying about 2 255L pumps running all the time, that would be a volume of fuel. not sure if the L ecm would run 10 cylinders. What do you think it would take to get this thing making at least 450RWHP?

10-29-2008, 02:03 PM	#11 (permalink)
j4cefan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 41 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I just checked my Excursion when I got in. If the customers fuel lines are like it we will need to upgrade the fuel lines. My pressure and return lines are both 5/16". What are you running for exhaust? Flipped manifolds or turbo headers. Thanks again

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Agent 00 L Merchant Mariner Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Somewhere, Indiana Posts: 1,626 View this user's gallery iTrader: 1 / 100%	I am running the Pro Trubo headers that came with the kit. Power? With the added displacement I don't think you will need much boost to make 450, mabye something like 12 psi? I didn't do any math on that is just a guess based on my dyno numbers.

10-30-2008, 11:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
j4cefan Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Cincinnati Posts: 41 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I talked to a guy today that gave me a little info on the fuel system. He has a Vortech on an F350 V10, He modified his fuel hat and has a 155 and a 255 pump in the tank. He's running the 255 all the time all the time and activating the other with a boost activated switch at 6-7PSI... I would stil need larger lines due to the 5/16" feed line. He has his truck making 375/460 at the rear wheels with 7 pounds of boost he says.. He used 10 of the cobra blue injectors.. I think they are 39's.. Do the guys that flip the manifolds swap them side to side also or just turn them over. do you lengthen the O2 wires for the sensors in the front? Thanks.