dual Powerdynes???

01-05-2002, 01:39 AM

while pondering life yet again, also looking thru the "power adder" section of the corral, i had a thought...

for you guys running the Powerdynes...ever thought of picking up a Moostang kit, which mounts in the pax side of the engine bay, for about $1000 and throwing it on the other side of your L???

you could run two of em together, perhaps at a lower boost settings, and get quite a charge out of it (no pun intended) ?!?

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'93 Lightning
-all the bolt-ons
-Jacobs ignition
-full exhaust
-Level 10 tranny
-TFS Stage II heads
-Kenne Bell Blowzilla
-357 Long-Rod on the brain...

if i stop runnin, the evil little clowns will get me...

[This message has been edited by Muddmann (edited 01-05-2002).]

01-05-2002, 01:55 AM

Cool idea, like bi-turbo only blowers. I tell ya, I want GJLS NOVI though. Thats where I would go, of course I want the intercooler kit too.

Steve

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94 Crimson #2826
Born May 6, 1994
NLOC member #343
Team Powerdyne,
13.49@ 102mph
Wanting 12's
Home page: http://www.topworldmusic.com/greased/

01-05-2002, 01:59 AM

Where Y'at Muddy, How about one like http://www.cobraautomotive.com/images/paxlnk.jpg

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Abby Normal
'92 F-150 302
Ford Performance Association Member
49 Cubes short of a full load!

01-05-2002, 07:37 AM

I would love to see the spec's on that thing. I wonder if it is more efficiant for two blowers insted of over driving the single one you all ready have. What I mean is, do super chargers lose or gain efficiancy as the RPM's go up?

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93 red Lightning
poly bushings
Timing @ 14*BTDC
rear exit exhaust
straight pipes
Under Drive Pulleys
Diesel Tube
180* thermostat
Downs Ford jump seat
Build #3949 of 5276
best time:15.031 @ 91.21MPh

Since last time at track:
Level 10 shift kit

01-05-2002, 07:51 AM

That picture looks kinda like the engine in a relly sweet '64 Fairlane that was at ExpoFord in Columbus Oh.this year.It was 447 cubic inches I think and had nitrous with TWO Powerdynes and two 4bbl Holleys.He didn't run it at the drag strip but it sure sounded good when he pulled out of the lot at the criuse-in.

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95L
Full Bassani exhaust
Power&Amp pulleys
460 air tube&K&N
180 stat&14 degree timing
1.7RR adj.FPR
1/8 mile ET 9.38@74.14

01-05-2002, 09:45 AM

The Viper guys are using twin superchargers. Here's one pic of the setup:
http://vca1.viperclub.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000397.html

Or how about a dyno sheet from a twin turbo viper:
http://vca1.viperclub.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000475.html

01-05-2002, 11:26 AM

Wouldn't ya think that it would take a TON of power to turn both blowers? I would assume that you'd keep 'em on the same belt drive, so crank loading shouldn't be an issue. IMHO, if you need that much, it's probably more efficient to run one big blower instead of two. But I could be wrong...

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- Kevin
Black '94 #907

01-05-2002, 11:38 AM

With Powerdynes.......you need 2 to compare to a Vortech! LOL

j/k

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Shane L.

<NLOC post whore> LOL

3 trucks that don't run to bad!

01-05-2002, 11:49 AM

im with GEN14U2NV...

...curious as to the efficiency of two at a lower boost setting vs one at higher

01-05-2002, 12:00 PM

also, the theory does not have to be Powerdynes, dual Vortechs are appplicable as well, as you can see.

its just that the Powerdynes are attainable for about a grand, and cheap is king, but free is better than good

...

01-05-2002, 02:13 PM

Since Powerdynes, Votechs, and Paxtons are all centrifical chargers, they will work like any other centrifical pump... meaning, that they add to the actual intake pressure. So, if you have two nine pound chargers, run the discharge of one into the intake of the other, then you would end up with 18 pounds of boost. Of course, an intercooler would be a must since the compression of all that air would raise the temperature to a level nearling that of the planet Mercury.

Just another thought.....

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John
NLOC # 227
HALO # 45

01-05-2002, 04:13 PM

Yea, but the question is, Is it more engin drag to run two 9lb chargers or one 18lb charger? The one that takes less horse power to run, in turn will create more horse power. Just a tought.

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93 red Lightning
poly bushings
Timing @ 14*BTDC
rear exit exhaust
straight pipes
Under Drive Pulleys
Diesel Tube
180* thermostat
Downs Ford jump seat
Build #3949 of 5276
best time:15.031 @ 91.21MPh

Since last time at track:
Level 10 shift kit

01-05-2002, 04:30 PM

Would be cool but you would be better off with say a novi 2000 instead of twin powerdynes or S-trims.
It would still rock though.

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Marcus Harrison
Member of HARRISON MOTORSPORTS
Home of F.U.Racing(Fords Unlimited)
NLOC#495
Hungry out of work eat your IMPORT

01-05-2002, 07:21 PM

Well we would all have to agree that a set up like this would be more for looks and not so much for power gains.
John,
Your idea made me think. What if you intercooled the truck. But you had one blower going to the into intercooler and the one pulling off the intercooler. This would help with getting the plumbing of the two blower to work together very easly and it would look very clean.

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Justin DiPalma
NLOC # 555
Black 94 #437
Power Dyned,
13.703 @ 100.38 MPH

01-05-2002, 10:41 PM

Or, just go turbo, free HP!

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-Joe C.
#5190 in '93
Full Bassani, Nastruck exit.
Roller conversion, used blower cam.
TFS/Fox Lake heads stage 1 port.
MSD 6A and Blaster coil.
42lb FMS injectors.
Extrude Hone lower intake.
Pro-M 80mm MAF
PSP Mas Air.
Flex-a-lite 212 fan.
Race Systems chip.
396 rwhp
426 rwtq
13.30 @104
Intercooled turbo on it's way.

01-05-2002, 01:39 AM	#1 (permalink)
Muddmann Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	dual Powerdynes??? while pondering life yet again, also looking thru the "power adder" section of the corral, i had a thought... for you guys running the Powerdynes...ever thought of picking up a Moostang kit, which mounts in the pax side of the engine bay, for about $1000 and throwing it on the other side of your L??? you could run two of em together, perhaps at a lower boost settings, and get quite a charge out of it (no pun intended) ?!? ------------------ '93 Lightning -all the bolt-ons -Jacobs ignition -full exhaust -Level 10 tranny -TFS Stage II heads -Kenne Bell Blowzilla -357 Long-Rod on the brain... if i stop runnin, the evil little clowns will get me... [This message has been edited by Muddmann (edited 01-05-2002).]

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01-05-2002, 01:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
sstock Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Cool idea, like bi-turbo only blowers. I tell ya, I want GJLS NOVI though. Thats where I would go, of course I want the intercooler kit too. Steve ------------------ 94 Crimson #2826 Born May 6, 1994 NLOC member #343 Team Powerdyne, 13.49@ 102mph Wanting 12's Home page: http://www.topworldmusic.com/greased/

01-05-2002, 01:59 AM	#3 (permalink)
Abby Normal Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Where Y'at Muddy, How about one like http://www.cobraautomotive.com/images/paxlnk.jpg ------------------ Abby Normal '92 F-150 302 Ford Performance Association Member 49 Cubes short of a full load!

01-05-2002, 07:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
GEN1_4_U_2_NV Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	I would love to see the spec's on that thing. I wonder if it is more efficiant for two blowers insted of over driving the single one you all ready have. What I mean is, do super chargers lose or gain efficiancy as the RPM's go up? ------------------ 93 red Lightning poly bushings Timing @ 14BTDC rear exit exhaust straight pipes Under Drive Pulleys Diesel Tube 180 thermostat Downs Ford jump seat Build #3949 of 5276 best time:15.031 @ 91.21MPh Since last time at track: Level 10 shift kit

01-05-2002, 07:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
greenstang Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	That picture looks kinda like the engine in a relly sweet '64 Fairlane that was at ExpoFord in Columbus Oh.this year.It was 447 cubic inches I think and had nitrous with TWO Powerdynes and two 4bbl Holleys.He didn't run it at the drag strip but it sure sounded good when he pulled out of the lot at the criuse-in. ------------------ 95L Full Bassani exhaust Power&Amp pulleys 460 air tube&K&N 180 stat&14 degree timing 1.7RR adj.FPR 1/8 mile ET 9.38@74.14

01-05-2002, 09:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
mchafin Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	The Viper guys are using twin superchargers. Here's one pic of the setup: http://vca1.viperclub.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000397.html Or how about a dyno sheet from a twin turbo viper: http://vca1.viperclub.org/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000475.html

01-05-2002, 11:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Thundrn_Lightning Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Wouldn't ya think that it would take a TON of power to turn both blowers? I would assume that you'd keep 'em on the same belt drive, so crank loading shouldn't be an issue. IMHO, if you need that much, it's probably more efficient to run one big blower instead of two. But I could be wrong... ------------------ - Kevin Black '94 #907

01-05-2002, 11:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
lil'Zeus Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	With Powerdynes.......you need 2 to compare to a Vortech! LOL j/k ------------------ Shane L. <NLOC post whore> LOL 3 trucks that don't run to bad!

01-05-2002, 11:49 AM	#9 (permalink)
Muddmann Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	im with GEN14U2NV... ...curious as to the efficiency of two at a lower boost setting vs one at higher

01-05-2002, 12:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Muddmann Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	also, the theory does not have to be Powerdynes, dual Vortechs are appplicable as well, as you can see. its just that the Powerdynes are attainable for about a grand, and cheap is king, but free is better than good ...

01-05-2002, 02:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
TraumaPirate Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Since Powerdynes, Votechs, and Paxtons are all centrifical chargers, they will work like any other centrifical pump... meaning, that they add to the actual intake pressure. So, if you have two nine pound chargers, run the discharge of one into the intake of the other, then you would end up with 18 pounds of boost. Of course, an intercooler would be a must since the compression of all that air would raise the temperature to a level nearling that of the planet Mercury. Just another thought..... ------------------ John NLOC # 227 HALO # 45

01-05-2002, 04:13 PM	#12 (permalink)
GEN1_4_U_2_NV Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Yea, but the question is, Is it more engin drag to run two 9lb chargers or one 18lb charger? The one that takes less horse power to run, in turn will create more horse power. Just a tought. ------------------ 93 red Lightning poly bushings Timing @ 14BTDC rear exit exhaust straight pipes Under Drive Pulleys Diesel Tube 180 thermostat Downs Ford jump seat Build #3949 of 5276 best time:15.031 @ 91.21MPh Since last time at track: Level 10 shift kit

01-05-2002, 04:30 PM	#13 (permalink)
Litng1 Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Would be cool but you would be better off with say a novi 2000 instead of twin powerdynes or S-trims. It would still rock though. ------------------ Marcus Harrison Member of HARRISON MOTORSPORTS Home of F.U.Racing(Fords Unlimited) NLOC#495 Hungry out of work eat your IMPORT

01-05-2002, 07:21 PM	#14 (permalink)
94SVT437 Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Well we would all have to agree that a set up like this would be more for looks and not so much for power gains. John, Your idea made me think. What if you intercooled the truck. But you had one blower going to the into intercooler and the one pulling off the intercooler. This would help with getting the plumbing of the two blower to work together very easly and it would look very clean. ------------------ Justin DiPalma NLOC # 555 Black 94 #437 Power Dyned, 13.703 @ 100.38 MPH

01-05-2002, 10:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
LETSRCE Guest Posts: n/a View this user's gallery iTrader: / %	Or, just go turbo, free HP! ------------------ -Joe C. #5190 in '93 Full Bassani, Nastruck exit. Roller conversion, used blower cam. TFS/Fox Lake heads stage 1 port. MSD 6A and Blaster coil. 42lb FMS injectors. Extrude Hone lower intake. Pro-M 80mm MAF PSP Mas Air. Flex-a-lite 212 fan. Race Systems chip. 396 rwhp 426 rwtq 13.30 @104 Intercooled turbo on it's way.