Moonshine-'94SVT

This question should stir some responses

I hear this blower is not that expensive compared to others. Does anyone know if this can be done ?

If an intake manifold can be found that will bolt up to the charger/intercooler and heads, then this shouldn't be too hard to do, or is it.

Kevin T.

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'94 White Lightning #3112 of 4007. Lentech Automatics Street/Strip Terminator E40D, Pro-M Mass Air, Steeda Cam and lowering kit, Edelbrock Performer heads, Bassanni Off-Road Pipe, FMS Valve Covers, MSD Ignition and Coil, Crane Gold rollers,JBA Ceramic Headers, Reduction pulleys, Plenum spacer, Autometer Gauges

redlightningssf

You could find someone to fabricate a manifold to support the blower.The throttle body needs to be close to stock location also.But why when you could buy Kenne Bell S/C.TIME IS MONEY after all the custom work needed the cost would be the same maybe. KB is the easest blower to install without a doubt.Less than two hours and you got 100 more horses.I dont know why more guys arent running them. Just my opinion. Later Alex

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#775 Red Black Bra 1/2Drop Kenne Bell 6# Blower
SVO Mass air kit
30# injectors
Hooker headers
Basanni Hi flow cats K-N filter B-M shift kit
97 Harley Heritage

NateLightning

OMG there is some one on here with a KB blower. How do you like and how much did it set you back?

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It will strike twice.
Stock, best e/t: 15.302
94 Black #433 of 4007

redlightningssf

I paid 3250.00 for mine 3 years ago. It took less than 2 hours to install.It whines a little at idle but I love the sound and the extra 100 horses is a kick in the ***.When you figure that it takes 10 to 12 hours to install the other blowers,I don't understand why more guys aren't using kenne Bell.At the first of the year I'm going to install some heads,havent figured out which heads Im going to buy.I can't say enough good things about it. I know I'm not the only guy with KB. I like posative displacement blowers besides it sits on the motor were the blower belongs.I know I'll catch heck for saying that.lol Later Alex

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#775 Red Black Bra 1/2Drop Kenne Bell 6# Blower
SVO Mass air kit
30# injectors
Hooker headers
Basanni Hi flow cats K-N filter B-M shift kit
97 Harley Heritage

svtpickemup

Two reasons:
1) Performance-You just can't go as fast with the KB as you can with the Vortech.

2) Customer service-KB the company sucks. They make awesome products, but fail when it comes to helping the customer. This goes a long way when you spend 3500 bucks for something and the company won't talk to you about it......

But, if all you want is 100 extra horse and you will be happy with that....The KB is the way to go. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

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Kevin Lewis Proud to be NLOC Member #405
93 Black SHO ATX - Cone Filter, Eibach Springs, and Doug Lewis Tranny
93 Black Lightning - Stock
95 Black Lightning - Vortech S-Trim, TW Heads, 1.6 Rockers, Lunati Roller Cam, Mass Air Conversion, 36# Injectors, Chip by PSP, Precision Industries Converter, Bassani Headers and XPipe, Dynomax Race Mag Bullets, Full MSD Ignition, Electric Fans, ART Front Rotors, And waaaaaay too much fun.....

My 95 when it was down low, stock height now.

Alex R

How much HP can you get out of the vortech? I want to see what my options are?

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93' Red #2397
3/4 Belltech drop
B351 cam
UD Pullies
Shift kit
two three chamber flows
custom H-pipe

redlightningssf

I'll agree with you that KB customer service sucks.As far as the 100 hp increase thats just with the 6# kit.More boost equals more HP.As far as going faster with a vortec I can't say for sure. Maybe theres more people running centrifugal blowers than screw type that doesn't make them faster.It's not the first time someone has said that KB blowers are not as fast.Show me times on equaly modified trucks with differant blowers.Later Alex

svt721

red- whatkind of bra do u have on ur L? i have been considering one for my L for the winter-and to cover up the new 4 inch scratch in the front of my hood. do u have any pics of it? who makes it? how does it fit?
thanks.
mike

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Red 94 Lightning SVT# 721
Born on 3/5/94
Best ET: 14.2
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Moonshine-'94SVT

I was wanting a "roots" style blower for more torque at low rpm for around town. The Vortec seems a good choice for the high end and at the track. The vortec and others are extremely pricey though. I have not read many good things about other blowers especially the powedyne.

The Eaton blower seems to be way cheaper than what is currently available for the Gen1's. Of course you still have to acquire the rest of the hardware including a intake manifold. That is of couse an intake does exist for the 351W that will take the Eaton M112 blower.



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gasguzzler

I've got the Kenne-Bell also. If you are looking for drag-strip performance it seems as though the Vortechs are doing best, mostly I feel because the power doesn't come on until they have traction. I agree that Kenne-Bell's customer support sucks, especially their tech line, but I can also say that once you get it installed properly, you shouldn't have any problems where you would have to contact the company. If your looking for awesome low-end torque for towing or other fun reasons, this blower is awesome. I might also note that the only one of us on here that have the K/B with a somewhat highly modified truck is Ken Woodward who ran a best of 12.56 at a high elevation. I thought that was fast enough for me.- Brian

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94 Red Lightning
SVT Build #1706
NLOC #674 MiLOC #16
K-B Supercharger (7psi)
Bassani x-pipe, Crane ps-91 coil and HI-6Tr Ign., Aeromotive FPR
EEC-Tuner
The Little Stuff

Waiting to be installed:
level-ten shift kit, Rancho Torque Arms, 30lb. injectors

My Other Toy:
78 Trans Am 400 w/nitrous

Bimota Guy

The twin-screw design of the Kenne Bell is the most efficient of blower designs. Roots are more efficient than centrifugal (I am pretty sure) and twin-screw more than either. If I was going for a street blower it would be a roots or a twin-screw design. As someone already said the low-end torque is a blast. My wife loves hers (Eaton/Gen 2 truck.) Of course if I attempt to "love it" a little too much she yells at me to get my own if I want one so bad.

Wait until I install the Swanson flip chip and 80mm Pro-M mass air on her truck:
"Why does the truck sound different, Steve?"
"Umm, must be the new air filter, dear."

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N.L.O.C. #84
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'91 Bimota Dieci (120 rear wheel HP; 480 lbs wet weight)
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NateLightning

Ok I should have asked how do you yhink it will work with a 408 stroker? I'm not planing on doing it anytime soon but when I go to write the check I wana know for sure what I want. I'm gona get a FMS 4bolt main block and let the builder build me a 408 how he wants, I'm just gona tell him what I want it to do and what I'm gona run on it. I'm trying to decide if I wana go with a blower or N20 or both. Then theres the problem of hooking it up but I'll worrie about that later.

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It will strike twice.
Stock, best e/t: 15.302
94 Black #433 of 4007

redlightningssf

Hey Moonshine.
Heres another option for you. BM used to make a blower for the 302 now Holley makes the blower.I know the 351 is wider.When I first bought my L I had a 85 GT carbed with BM blower,I talked to BM and they refered me to a company that made a plate system to adapt any 302 manifold to 351.Are the bells ringing yet. This guy I talked to back east somewere told me he drilled the plate to run fuel injection.With the elbows that are out there now you could make it work.I thought about long and hard but went with kenne bell.BM could help with finding the name of the plate manufacturer.The blower was only 1400.00 it had an offset shaft the was gear driven the thing sounded like a gear driven motor.The guy that has my old GT says the car is still running strong with over 200,000 miles on it.Later Alex

HotRod

The KB blower just doesnt make as much horsepower as the centrifigal blowers. It makes KILLER torque down low, but that can actually hurt you at the track if its not a perfect traction day.
The centrifigals make power more linear with rpm, that is the higher the revs the more power the blower makes. Not so with the roots/KB. They hit hard and start to sag as the revs climb. They are most efficient around the 4000 rpm range. They fall off after that because they are a positive displacement blower. As you speed up those rotors/screws they begin to chop the air and rapidly overheat the intake charge.
The current crop of Vortech/Paxton/Procharger superchargers are the most efficient mass produced blowers ever.
Id choose a centrifigal for my personal use, and Im not just being partial to the centrifigals. I had a B&M Roots blower on my 5.8 Mustang and it ran high 10s. It was a LOT of fun. But the bolt on abilities of a new S or T-Trim Vortech, for example, is just unbelievable. And they are cheaper than the Kenne Bell unit.
Im not taking sides, just giving my input.

Oh, one more thing. The Eaton blower is too small for a 5.8. They can only get about 13-14psi on a 5.4.

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Rod K.

'93 Lightning #1529 NLOC #675
13.27 @ 101.55 Au Natural
12.67 @ 102.52 Kinda juiced..
'98 SVT Contour E1 #5782
'00 Suzuki Bandit S1200 10s??

Moonshine-'94SVT

Thanks for everyone's input. It was all noted and much appreciated.

So much for trying to go the cheaper way
You get what you pay for.

Kevin