RoadRover

Hey everyone.
Well, first the good news. I got my new emblems in the mail today. I have the fender badges and the tailgate badge. I'll try and put them on tomorrow and get a picture posted.

Also, while I was servicing the truck this weekend, a friend of mine (who also owns a '95) was commenting on the differences in model years, and he is convinced that I bought my truck with ram air already instaled (by the previous owner?) It's going to be long-winded describing the set up, but please bear with me.
From the bottom of the airbox, there is a length of molded plastic that leads up to the top of the grille. It forms into a scoop at the end, and looks exactly like the deisel snorkel that comes with the Kenne Bell ram air kit. The thing is, when you close the hood, the lip at the front of the hood covers the entry to the 'scoop', so it wouldn't be much use as a ram-air system.

Jesse swears that he's never seen a '95 with this on before. I'll get a picture of it posted if my description doesn't explain it.

Also, before the oil change this weekend, my oil pressure guage was swinging around pretty irregularly. It would wander around in the 'normal' area, anywhere between the 'N' and the 'A'. It still is doing this after the oil change, but not as badly. It just moves between the 'M' and the 'A' now. It used to be rock-solid in one spot. I'm not sure wether its the crappy gauges, or a problem developing.

Lots of stuff, I know...
Ideas?

Brian Baskin

It sounds like you're describing the stock air inlet (at least on my '93).

I have a pic here: http://www.memoriesonthebay.com/othe...g/Engine02.JPG

It's not very good, but you can see the air inlet tube from the air filter to the top of the grill.
(I just ripped it out this afternoon and put a 460 inlet tube in. I highly recommend it )

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Larry Burger

Hey, That sounds like exactly like the air intake on my 94.Took mine off & replaced it with a K&N f.i.p. kit what a difference.
Larry

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Red 1994 #2850 K&N F.I.P. Kit
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Subliminal Message

I thought the oil pressure gauge was basically a dummy light on these trucks. mine never moves once the truck is running

RoadRover

Yeah, I checked out the picture. Thats the same as what I have on mine. It didn't make any sense that it would be a ram air system, thats why I posted about it. Jesse is adamant that '95's didn't have that on there.

So what's the difference between that and the 460 inlet tube? I'm getting a K&N (about damn time!) soon. Is it going to make an appreciable difference if I put in the 460 inlet tube with the K&N on there? Or should I fabricate a different inlet, maybe one that feeds the K&N from the bottom of the air dam or somewhere in the grille?

I made my own ram air system for my previous car that fed from the bottom of the air dam, and it made a big difference, plus you could hear the neat 'sucking' noise from the scoop when the engine was running.

greenstang

The 460 tube goes from the air box to an existing hole in the radiator support and pulls air from behind the grille.It's a neat looking setup,a lot better than the stock air tube.

93-Bolt

Question: The K&N filter (K&N 57-2517 )that I have .. Just replaces the Air Box and inlet tube as seen in Brian Baskin's picture .. Basicly a cone filter mounted to the Throttle Body Inlet Tube and secured where the original Air Filter Box was ... With this set up, it's not really drawing any cool air .. just lot's of air :-)

Previouse to this I had the complete Stock set up with the exception of Just a K&N filter in the air box .. However, looking back, at least this was drawing air from the front of the truck .. well sort of .. and maybe I was better off ..??

Does someone have a picture of the 460 Diesel Tube set up? and does this work with the Stock Air Box but replaces the air inlet tube ?

darryl

POWERSTROKE

On the Oil Pressure fluctuating - Could be your pressure sensor getting ready to go bad. The stock gauges use an electrial resistance unit bathed in hot engine oil attached to a rubber diaphram to sense pressure. They're inaccurate and only last so long. My '87 F-150 had it's first one replaced before 2000 miles, then again at about 60,000. The Autometer Mechanical gauge was installed at about 2100 miles

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Brian Baskin

Don't have a digital camera, or else I'd take a pic of the 460 tube. Basically, look at your radiator, on the side towards the air box. Right past the radiator, next to it, is a rectangle hole, vertical, that you can see the ground through. About 3" wide, and 7" tall. The 460 tube just replaces the tube going from the top of the radiator to the airbox. The 460 pops into the airbox, and goes into that rectangle hole by the radiator.

93-Bolt

Thanks, Was able to quickly locate where the 460 tube would go ...

Now I Gotta Wonder if replacing the stock tube with a 460 tube and replacing the OEM filter in airboxk with a K&N filter would have been better than pulling airbox and tube out and install the K&N cone kit ..?

Picture of the K&N kit I installed ..
http://www.safezone.net/~darrylc/images/KN57-2517.jpg

darryl

http://www.safezone.net/~darrylc/

MO351

I've got the same set-up that Darryl has. I like it and you can really hear it breathing, except that it has got to be sucking in a lot of hot air from the engine. There's no other way, except via the hood, to set up a ram air system than to go with the 460/diesel tube. Unless someone else knows of a way..... I'll be getting a tube in the future to get some ram air help.

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1994 Red SVT Lightning #2019

keith michalak

I've got the cone filter and the 460 tube and did not notice any change in performance. About two years ago i bought the Kenny Bell ram air which is a cone filter, a new air box, and a 460 tube from ford. I sent it back the week i bought it because it did not preform like he said. After this ordeal i called Kenny Brown and he said a ram air dont work until you hit 117mph. If this is true im not really sure.

MO351

I could see how that would be so, Keith, cause you would have to be going pretty dang fast to actually get the air "rammed" into the engine like forced induction. But the way I see most of the ram air kits on our street/strip cars and trucks is to get much cooler, more dense air to the air intake, rather than the very hot and thin air from the engine which is where hp is lost. I don't really see the ram air as a "forced induction" type deal unless you are moving at a very high rate of speed.

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1994 Red SVT Lightning #2019

keith michalak

I'm making a new air box at work so it will hold my cone filter right. I'm making it out of 1/4" alum. I want to put dry ice at the bottom of the box so the box will be cold when the air flows through it. does anybody think this will work???? I'm also thinking of making a new air tube.

Nick Wilson

It's not ram air if you use the Cervinis hood. All of the presure you want is in front of the grille. I'm having Tristate Fab. build an intake that uses 1/3 the grille, (basically a large plactic scoop that forms to 1/3 the rear of the grille). I plan on opening the 460 hole in the frame to a much larger hole. Large enough to stick a K&N cone through, at least part way through. From there, the box, and an aluminum tube to the TB. True ram air has to come from the front most plane.

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