Predator AND flip chip?

cteselle · 04-08-2004, 01:35 PM

A while back, someone mentioned the possibility of using a chip and predator together. This is basically how I would think it would work:

Predator tune is loaded in truck.
Delta chip is installed in truck.
Delta programs would override the stock tune (predator tune). Tunes on chip could be race program, nitrous program, valet program, etc. Predator tune could be street program. Really the choice would be up to the owner.
When flip switch is turned to the off position the predator tune would take over.

Has anyone verified that this would work?

99 Red Devil · 04-08-2004, 08:17 PM

Yep, thought about that also...Problem I could not overcome is that the progs we are loading are overlays in a sense. Neigther the Predator or any of the Chips are replacing the entire contents of all the banks...from what I understand. I did not pursue this route further since I really did not understand what was being modified in each tune and how each parameter in each tune could affected the system...Does that make any sense?
Figured it was cheaper to purchase specialized tunes than to risk injury to the system.

quiksilver · 04-12-2004, 08:42 AM

I'm doing exactly that, gives me three tunes to choose from at any time. Works fine.

ccattie · 05-25-2004, 07:31 PM

Can you use the predator to program all 3? Would it matter which chips youre using? Can a predator tune a diablo delta chip but not a superchips chip?
-c

SLVRLTNG · 05-25-2004, 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ccattie
Can you use the predator to program all 3? Would it matter which chips youre using? Can a predator tune a diablo delta chip but not a superchips chip?
-c

the predator cannot program any chip at all

quiksilver · 06-01-2004, 09:24 AM

SLVR is right, the predator can modify ITS file, but don't try to modify the chip's files. It will screw things up. A friend had his flip chip switch/LED go bad. He thought he was modifying the Predator tune, because the LED was off, but was in one of the chip settings. Results: a corrupted (screwed) chip and locked predator.

Man O Lightning · 11-27-2004, 07:25 PM

Okay i have a Diablo flip chip and i am going to get a predator and i can keep the chip installed?
and just flip the chip off to get the predator tune to work?? thanks

quiksilver · 11-29-2004, 03:26 PM

This works perfectly with the red chip, but there's a wrinkle with the newer design black, revolution, chip. With a red chip in the off position you can use or tune or install a predator tune. BUT, with a black chip it must be pulled to modify or install a predator tune. You can then reinstall the chip and switch (run) between the three positions, no problem.

04-08-2004, 01:35 PM	#1 (permalink)
cteselle Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orange, CA Posts: 1,856 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Predator AND flip chip? A while back, someone mentioned the possibility of using a chip and predator together. This is basically how I would think it would work: Predator tune is loaded in truck. Delta chip is installed in truck. Delta programs would override the stock tune (predator tune). Tunes on chip could be race program, nitrous program, valet program, etc. Predator tune could be street program. Really the choice would be up to the owner. When flip switch is turned to the off position the predator tune would take over. Has anyone verified that this would work? __________________ '01 Black Lightning \| SoCalDiablo Powered #4956 of 6381 6/12/01 NLOC # 842 NHTOC # 2 Reigning SoCal LOC Jalapeno Pepper and Jagermeister Chugging Champion

04-12-2004, 08:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
quiksilver Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 280 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	I'm doing exactly that, gives me three tunes to choose from at any time. Works fine. __________________ 2002 L tune provided by Paul @ Razors Edge: 513rwhp/597rwtq SAE stock block, stock heads, stock cams, NX wet 75 shot Member of: www.swlightnings.com

06-01-2004, 09:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
quiksilver Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 280 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	SLVR is right, the predator can modify ITS file, but don't try to modify the chip's files. It will screw things up. A friend had his flip chip switch/LED go bad. He thought he was modifying the Predator tune, because the LED was off, but was in one of the chip settings. Results: a corrupted (screwed) chip and locked predator. __________________ 2002 L tune provided by Paul @ Razors Edge: 513rwhp/597rwtq SAE stock block, stock heads, stock cams, NX wet 75 shot Member of: www.swlightnings.com

11-29-2004, 03:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
quiksilver Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 280 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	This works perfectly with the red chip, but there's a wrinkle with the newer design black, revolution, chip. With a red chip in the off position you can use or tune or install a predator tune. BUT, with a black chip it must be pulled to modify or install a predator tune. You can then reinstall the chip and switch (run) between the three positions, no problem. __________________ 2002 L tune provided by Paul @ Razors Edge: 513rwhp/597rwtq SAE stock block, stock heads, stock cams, NX wet 75 shot Member of: www.swlightnings.com

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04-08-2004, 08:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
99 Red Devil Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 147 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Yep, thought about that also...Problem I could not overcome is that the progs we are loading are overlays in a sense. Neigther the Predator or any of the Chips are replacing the entire contents of all the banks...from what I understand. I did not pursue this route further since I really did not understand what was being modified in each tune and how each parameter in each tune could affected the system...Does that make any sense? Figured it was cheaper to purchase specialized tunes than to risk injury to the system.

05-25-2004, 07:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
ccattie Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: The Delaware Valley (Smyrna, DE) Posts: 895 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Can you use the predator to program all 3? Would it matter which chips youre using? Can a predator tune a diablo delta chip but not a superchips chip? -c

11-27-2004, 07:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Man O Lightning Super Bolt. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Thornton, Colorado Posts: 380 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Okay i have a Diablo flip chip and i am going to get a predator and i can keep the chip installed? and just flip the chip off to get the predator tune to work?? thanks