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Old 03-09-2008, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AEM Wideband - A/F Data cable install??

I'm finally getting around to hooking up my AEM wideband to be able to datalog my A/F ratio with my Xcal2/Laptop.

A few questions:

I cut the female end of the 9 pin connector I got from SCT.
Using a multimeter to figure out which wires are analog 1, analog 2, and ground.

From the back of the AEM wideband I took the red wire and hooked it to a power source, black I grounded.

Now I have a white wire and a blue wire left coming off the wideband.
Are both needed?
Or do I only hook up one to be able to record my data.

In other words, do I just need to hook up just Analog 1 from the Pin connector to say the blue wire? or do I hook both up? Also do I need to ground out the 9 pin connector wire that is coming from the xcal2?

I found this picture along with a few "how to's" but none were very clear....


Also I've been getting different responses for the formula used to datalog as well.

Is this the one you use?

V*2+10

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Old 03-09-2008, 04:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Think I got it.
Grounded the wire coming off the 9 pin cable. Hooked up both analog 1 & 2 to two wires on the 9 pin cable I identified with a multimeter.

Off to test it out, looks like its working.....
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Old 03-09-2008, 04:53 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I wish I could help, but I installed mine over 2 years ago and to make it easier I used a Cat-5 ethernet jack and plug for the installation and removal process.

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Old 03-09-2008, 09:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm doing the same thing with the RJ45 plug and jack to make removing it easier. But before I crimped down the ends of the jacks I'm testing it to make sure it works.

I tried this ratio when I datalog with livelink software for my xcal2

(v*2)+10

Is this the right equation to use for the AEM?

I tested out the formula above and it read a flat 10 on the reads in the datalog. And I know my wideband was not reading close to 10.

So either I have a wire hooked up wrong, which I doubt since I tested the wires with the multimeter and they showed a signal on the two I'm using hooked to the wideband wires.

So the only other thing I can think of is I am using the wrong formula to datalog the analog signal.

I found on another forum this formula they said to use, as the xcal2 has an issues with voltage.
(V*8.68)+10

So I'm off to test this one now...

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Nobody is using the AEM to datalog there A/F ratio with the xcal2??????
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Old 03-10-2008, 09:07 AM   #6 (permalink)
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(v*2)+10 is what I always used. I have not used mine in a while. I will try it when I get home to verify it for you.

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(v*2)+10 is what I always used. I have not used mine in a while. I will try it when I get home to verify it for you.

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Thanks.
Thats what I had read to use from a few forums, but then I saw other sites stating that xcal2's had an issues with voltage, so it was logging the wrong A/F ratio. Thats when I read to use (V*8.68)+10.

But to be honest since I hooked up analog 1 & 2, I tried each formula. One using the v*2 and the other using v*8.68... and neither worked. Both kept reading 10.0 on livelink....

I'm starting to wonder if I have something wired wrong. Not sure how, as there are only 3 wires coming out of the AEM wideband(Analog 1 & 2, and ground), and three wires coming out of the 9 pin cable(Analog 1, 2 & Ground)
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Thanks.
Thats what I had read to use from a few forums, but then I saw other sites stating that xcal2's had an issues with voltage, so it was logging the wrong A/F ratio. Thats when I read to use (V*8.68)+10.

But to be honest since I hooked up analog 1 & 2, I tried each formula. One using the v*2 and the other using v*8.68... and neither worked. Both kept reading 10.0 on livelink....

I'm starting to wonder if I have something wired wrong. Not sure how, as there are only 3 wires coming out of the AEM wideband(Analog 1 & 2, and ground), and three wires coming out of the 9 pin cable(Analog 1, 2 & Ground)
When I first installed mine, I had it wired incorrectly also. The 9 pin din cable had me all confused. I think the diagram was incorrect that I was working off of also. Like I said, I will try it when I get home and post it up for you.

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Thanks Rich, really appreciate it. Your the first and only person to respond to any of my posts on any of the forums.

I guess you and I are the only two Lightning owners who actually are taking full advantage of the capabilitys of the AEM Wideband gauge.

I decided not to follow the pin out docuementation either. I just hooked up the 9 pin to the XCal 2 and then used a multimeter to determine which were the two cables showing any amount of voltage. All the other cables showed near to nothing for voltage, so I used the two that got a signal as the analog lines, hmmm wonder if maybe I have the ground cable wrong, now that I think of it, I never did test that wire, just assumed black was ground......
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O.K got it all working.

For someone elses future reference, when hooking up the AEM wideband to datalog...

Coming off the AEM gauge is a white wire and a blue wire.
I'm using only the white wire.
Take the white wire and connect that to the gray wire coming off the 9 pin cable.
Then take the brown wire and the shielding wire from the 9 pin cable and ground that to the body.

Thats it, your done.
Plug the 9 pin cable into your xcal2
Plug your xcal2 into your laptop and odbc port.
Open up livelink on your laptop
Configure analog2 with a formula of (v*2)+10
And your now datalogging your A/F ratio.

I just finished testing all of this and it seems the formula might be a bit off as the datalog is showing about a .4 higher A/F than the actual gauge.

Off to play around with the formula and I'll post up if I find a solution.
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Glad you figured it out. I came home and tried my laptop to find out that I have a driver problem with SCT and the operating system on my computer. Then had to take the kids to wrestling practice, so I just got home. Good info for me though. Again glad you got it working.

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Old 03-11-2008, 09:38 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Actually I have one more thing to add.
I noticed what I was datalogging was not right, it was datalogging actually .4-.6 higher than what the actual A/F gauge was showing.

So I changed the formula to (v*2)+9.75

and now its dead on the money.

Hope this helps someone else out in the future.

It's a great feature and most oviously are not taking advatage of the full capability of the AEM wideband.
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