Beware of scamers trying to buy on this site!

BigThumper · 09-12-2005, 04:40 PM

hi guys i have a banshee for sale that is posted in the classifieds, and i got this e-mail, and it sounded fishy so i did some checking.. and it is a total scam.

here is the frist e-mail

HELLO,
PLEASE I LIKE TO KNOW THE CONDITION OF THIS ITEM 97 409cc banshee WITH PRICE OF $4,000.00, I HAVE A CLIENT WHO IS INTERESTED IN BUYING IT, SHE IS IN EUROP. SHE HANDED OVER THE TRANSASCTION TO ME TO HANDLE. SO IF INTERESTED PLEASE GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR MAILING ADDRESS SO THAT A MONEY ORDER OR CASHIER'S CHECK COULD BE ISSUED TO YOU ASAP.
THANKS,
FRANK..
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so i sent this back

Hi,
Well as stated in the ad it needs new plastics, and it needs to be tuned
for the new set up on it. I bought the bike last year in August for my
birthday and road it then brought it home and started rebuilding it. At the
time it ran great, but I put new air filters and some other stuff on it
which changed the air fuel ratio, so that is why it needs to be jetted. The
bike is almost like new. I have put allot of time and money in to it, but
with a new baby on the way I just don't have the time or the money anymore.
If you would like more pics I can send them to you.I have them from when I
bought it to what it is like now.

My address is

Removed by admin

thanks Shelby
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then he wrote back

Hello,
thanks for your response, the check will be mail out by wednessday, i will let you know as soon as that is done.
please am not in the states now am in UK, i want to let you know the status of this transaction.
My client will be including some extra money on the check which is meant for the shipping of this item. Please you will help transfer this money to the shipping company incharge of the shippment as soon as you cashed and deduct your item fee so they could come for the pick up.
Please let me know if the condition is ok by you so that i could contact my client about it.
Thanks,
Frank..
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then i wrote back

so do you have a shipping company that is going to come pick it up? and if
so you sending me the extra money to give them to pay for the shipping
charges..
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then he wrote back

SURE,
WE HAVE A SHIPPING COMPANY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. YOU WILL SE ND THE DIFFERENCE TO THEM SO THEY COULD COME FOR PICK UP.
THANKS

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then this is when i thought it seemed fishy
i wrote

Frank,
Can you tell me a little about who is buying the Banshee, and what part
you play in all this. Am just asking because there has been allot of scams
here lately on the internet. If you are sending a money order or cashiers
check I want to wait till it clears my bank to ship the bike and parts, and
is the bike going over sea's or is it staying here in the US? I would take
paypal if you would like but I would have to have the fee's also. Which is
about $125.00 on $4,000.00, but it would have to be done in two
transactions, because my incoming limit is $3,000.00. Just let me know what
you want to do.

thanks Shelby
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and he would not respond so thats when i did some checking and found tons of people have had this happend to them..

i hope no one else falls for this crap...

Scotts Elle · 09-14-2005, 04:20 PM

This may sound ignorant but how is this a scam... He hasn't asked for any money and hasn't asked you to pre-ship without payment...

Brian Baskin · 09-14-2005, 04:28 PM

Something I posted on another thread awhile back:

It's a two-person scam. Allegedly, person A owes money to person B. To pay part of the loan, person A agrees to purchase a part that person B needs, but will send you the amount plus the extra money (to pay off the debt). They send money via a cashier's check. You deposit the check, where it initially clears, then you send the part out and the extra money to person B. A few days later, you receive a call from your bank that the cashier's check is fraudulent and they won't honor the funds. You've now lost the item you were selling, and the 'extra' money that you sent to person B.

They make a quick few hundred bucks, get a free item, and have it all shipped to anonymous drop points, usually overseas.

A normal tell-tale is the fact that they will copy your entire item description, and use it verbatim multiple times in their correspondance. That's because they use a pre-made form letter, and they just drop in your item name.

...

Btw, you might want to edit your name/address out

BigD · 09-14-2005, 04:52 PM

I did the edit Brian!

BigThumper · 09-14-2005, 07:33 PM

thanks guys i didn't even think of that..

Scotts Elle · 09-14-2005, 09:48 PM

Wow... who said criminals were dumb. Thanks for the heads-up...

09-12-2005, 04:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
BigThumper Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 6 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	Beware of scamers trying to buy on this site! hi guys i have a banshee for sale that is posted in the classifieds, and i got this e-mail, and it sounded fishy so i did some checking.. and it is a total scam. here is the frist e-mail HELLO, PLEASE I LIKE TO KNOW THE CONDITION OF THIS ITEM 97 409cc banshee WITH PRICE OF $4,000.00, I HAVE A CLIENT WHO IS INTERESTED IN BUYING IT, SHE IS IN EUROP. SHE HANDED OVER THE TRANSASCTION TO ME TO HANDLE. SO IF INTERESTED PLEASE GET BACK TO ME WITH YOUR MAILING ADDRESS SO THAT A MONEY ORDER OR CASHIER'S CHECK COULD BE ISSUED TO YOU ASAP. THANKS, FRANK.. --------------------------------------------------------------------- so i sent this back Hi, Well as stated in the ad it needs new plastics, and it needs to be tuned for the new set up on it. I bought the bike last year in August for my birthday and road it then brought it home and started rebuilding it. At the time it ran great, but I put new air filters and some other stuff on it which changed the air fuel ratio, so that is why it needs to be jetted. The bike is almost like new. I have put allot of time and money in to it, but with a new baby on the way I just don't have the time or the money anymore. If you would like more pics I can send them to you.I have them from when I bought it to what it is like now. My address is Removed by admin thanks Shelby -------------------------------------------------------------------------- then he wrote back Hello, thanks for your response, the check will be mail out by wednessday, i will let you know as soon as that is done. please am not in the states now am in UK, i want to let you know the status of this transaction. My client will be including some extra money on the check which is meant for the shipping of this item. Please you will help transfer this money to the shipping company incharge of the shippment as soon as you cashed and deduct your item fee so they could come for the pick up. Please let me know if the condition is ok by you so that i could contact my client about it. Thanks, Frank.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- then i wrote back so do you have a shipping company that is going to come pick it up? and if so you sending me the extra money to give them to pay for the shipping charges.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- then he wrote back SURE, WE HAVE A SHIPPING COMPANY TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. YOU WILL SE ND THE DIFFERENCE TO THEM SO THEY COULD COME FOR PICK UP. THANKS -------------------------------------------------------------------------- then this is when i thought it seemed fishy i wrote Frank, Can you tell me a little about who is buying the Banshee, and what part you play in all this. Am just asking because there has been allot of scams here lately on the internet. If you are sending a money order or cashiers check I want to wait till it clears my bank to ship the bike and parts, and is the bike going over sea's or is it staying here in the US? I would take paypal if you would like but I would have to have the fee's also. Which is about $125.00 on $4,000.00, but it would have to be done in two transactions, because my incoming limit is $3,000.00. Just let me know what you want to do. thanks Shelby -------------------------------------------------------------------------- and he would not respond so thats when i did some checking and found tons of people have had this happend to them.. i hope no one else falls for this crap... __________________ Going Fast is expensive! How Fast are you? Nitrous Junkie with a Turbo Problem! "Nitrous is like a Hot chick with STD's... You know you want to hit it, but your afraid of the consequences!"

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09-14-2005, 04:20 PM	#2 (permalink)
Scotts Elle Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 764 View this user's gallery iTrader: 3 / 100%	This may sound ignorant but how is this a scam... He hasn't asked for any money and hasn't asked you to pre-ship without payment...

09-14-2005, 04:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Brian Baskin Rikutsu-poi Paid Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Harford County, MD Posts: 8,008 NLOC member #: 658 View this user's gallery iTrader: 4 / 100%	Something I posted on another thread awhile back: It's a two-person scam. Allegedly, person A owes money to person B. To pay part of the loan, person A agrees to purchase a part that person B needs, but will send you the amount plus the extra money (to pay off the debt). They send money via a cashier's check. You deposit the check, where it initially clears, then you send the part out and the extra money to person B. A few days later, you receive a call from your bank that the cashier's check is fraudulent and they won't honor the funds. You've now lost the item you were selling, and the 'extra' money that you sent to person B. They make a quick few hundred bucks, get a free item, and have it all shipped to anonymous drop points, usually overseas. A normal tell-tale is the fact that they will copy your entire item description, and use it verbatim multiple times in their correspondance. That's because they use a pre-made form letter, and they just drop in your item name. ... Btw, you might want to edit your name/address out

09-14-2005, 04:52 PM	#4 (permalink)
BigD President Paid Member Join Date: Sep 1999 Posts: 4,096 NLOC member #: 583 View this user's gallery iTrader: 4 / 100%	I did the edit Brian!

09-14-2005, 07:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
BigThumper Registered User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Oklahoma City Posts: 6 View this user's gallery iTrader: 0 / 0%	thanks guys i didn't even think of that..

09-14-2005, 09:48 PM	#6 (permalink)
Scotts Elle Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 764 View this user's gallery iTrader: 3 / 100%	Wow... who said criminals were dumb. Thanks for the heads-up...